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This stinks
and appears that it could have been VERY easily avoided.
http://www.aero-tv.net/index.cfm?do=app ... 3b0f149c4d
http://www.aero-tv.net/index.cfm?do=app ... 3b0f149c4d
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Thanks for the link Willie.
The lady could have been a better eye witness, but at least she was better than some.
If you find any more info, let us know.
F
The lady could have been a better eye witness, but at least she was better than some.
If you find any more info, let us know.
F
"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."
- The history of Paul Revere's midnight ride, by Sarah Palin.
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Been all over the web since I posted that. Found a couple of guys that stated the same thing I thought was ALWAYS the rule when landing in formation.
The rear plane ALWAYS lands first. From what I saw on that vid, the P51D "PAUL II" plunked her down and "PRECIOUS METAL" plowed right up his six.
"PRECIOUS METAL" is a Reno Racer and with all the speed mods, probably has to land at a faster speed than a "somewhat stock" P-51. Either way, they should have brought 'em down one at a time in my opinion. To heck with wowing the crowds with landings like that.
Now they've got one dead, one totalled racer, one very torn up P-51 and LOT of naysayers with ammo to say "I TOLD YOU SO!"
A few more of that type of screw up and we won't see any old warbirds flying. Either the insurance will make it too costly like it has in the UK or the weenies at the FAA will pull all the certs and ground 'em forever.
The rear plane ALWAYS lands first. From what I saw on that vid, the P51D "PAUL II" plunked her down and "PRECIOUS METAL" plowed right up his six.
"PRECIOUS METAL" is a Reno Racer and with all the speed mods, probably has to land at a faster speed than a "somewhat stock" P-51. Either way, they should have brought 'em down one at a time in my opinion. To heck with wowing the crowds with landings like that.
Now they've got one dead, one totalled racer, one very torn up P-51 and LOT of naysayers with ammo to say "I TOLD YOU SO!"
A few more of that type of screw up and we won't see any old warbirds flying. Either the insurance will make it too costly like it has in the UK or the weenies at the FAA will pull all the certs and ground 'em forever.
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A grim week for flying, Jim leroy also died at Dayton after his Pitts went down.
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?Cont ... 42020b0f82
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?Cont ... 42020b0f82
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"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."
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Shyte!!!!
WTF are ATC doing at this time?????
WANKERS!!!!!
Poor bastard probably never knew what hit him it flipped so quick.
Hope he's still flying up there....
WANKERS!!!!!
Poor bastard probably never knew what hit him it flipped so quick.
Hope he's still flying up there....
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Re: Shyte!!!!
Probably sitting in their tower waiting for the planes to land that they've just given permission to land.:FI:Fenian wrote:WTF are ATC doing at this time?????
WANKERS!!!!!
From what I could gather, the two 51's were finishing up a "flyby" airshow of some sort and planned to land together. (although not quite that together)
I'm pretty sure the rear plane never saw the other pane until he heard or felt stuff tearing up. He may have hammered the throttle and torque/snap rolled it.
Either way, it was poor planning and execution on the pilot's parts and a terrible waste.
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NOW, WAIT JUST A MINUTE, Y'AWL!
It isn't always the fault of ATC when things go wrong. Pilots are known for not always following instructions. I can tell you more than a couple ones in my experience. Like that idiot who taxiied onto a closed portion of the runway when he was instructed to make a 180 degree turn at the designated point, despite all the markers and NOTAMS that went out. But in this case it is hard to tell until a proper Accident Investigation and Report is completed. In my experience I'll never allow two aircraft to land at the same time, no matter how small the craft is or how long or wide a runway is. In this case I'll say that was a bad call.
It isn't always the fault of ATC when things go wrong. Pilots are known for not always following instructions. I can tell you more than a couple ones in my experience. Like that idiot who taxiied onto a closed portion of the runway when he was instructed to make a 180 degree turn at the designated point, despite all the markers and NOTAMS that went out. But in this case it is hard to tell until a proper Accident Investigation and Report is completed. In my experience I'll never allow two aircraft to land at the same time, no matter how small the craft is or how long or wide a runway is. In this case I'll say that was a bad call.
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Was that Sargent O'Rourke from
F-Troop?
Yup...
Nice one Padre!
Yup...
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Re: Was that Sargent O'Rourke from
http://www.nndb.com/people/933/000022867/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;:FI:Fenian wrote:F-Troop?
Yup...
Nice one Padre!
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