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Post by :FI:WillieOFS » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:05 pm

and appears that it could have been VERY easily avoided.
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Post by :FI:Falcon » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:49 pm

Thanks for the link Willie.

The lady could have been a better eye witness, but at least she was better than some.

If you find any more info, let us know.


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Post by :FI:WillieOFS » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:01 pm

Been all over the web since I posted that. Found a couple of guys that stated the same thing I thought was ALWAYS the rule when landing in formation.

The rear plane ALWAYS lands first. From what I saw on that vid, the P51D "PAUL II" plunked her down and "PRECIOUS METAL" plowed right up his six.

"PRECIOUS METAL" is a Reno Racer and with all the speed mods, probably has to land at a faster speed than a "somewhat stock" P-51. Either way, they should have brought 'em down one at a time in my opinion. To heck with wowing the crowds with landings like that.

Now they've got one dead, one totalled racer, one very torn up P-51 and LOT of naysayers with ammo to say "I TOLD YOU SO!"

A few more of that type of screw up and we won't see any old warbirds flying. Either the insurance will make it too costly like it has in the UK or the weenies at the FAA will pull all the certs and ground 'em forever.
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Post by :FI:Sneaky_Russian » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:35 am

A grim week for flying, Jim leroy also died at Dayton after his Pitts went down.
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Post by :FI:Heloego » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:18 am

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Post by :FI:Falcon » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:44 am

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Post by :FI:Fenian » Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:51 pm

WTF are ATC doing at this time?????

WANKERS!!!!!

Poor bastard probably never knew what hit him it flipped so quick.

Hope he's still flying up there....
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Re: Shyte!!!!

Post by :FI:WillieOFS » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:48 pm

:FI:Fenian wrote:WTF are ATC doing at this time?????

WANKERS!!!!!
Probably sitting in their tower waiting for the planes to land that they've just given permission to land. :?

From what I could gather, the two 51's were finishing up a "flyby" airshow of some sort and planned to land together. (although not quite that together)

I'm pretty sure the rear plane never saw the other pane until he heard or felt stuff tearing up. He may have hammered the throttle and torque/snap rolled it.

Either way, it was poor planning and execution on the pilot's parts and a terrible waste. :(
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Post by :FI:Genosse » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:53 am

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Post by AltarBoy » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:32 pm

NOW, WAIT JUST A MINUTE, Y'AWL!

It isn't always the fault of ATC when things go wrong. Pilots are known for not always following instructions. I can tell you more than a couple ones in my experience. Like that idiot who taxiied onto a closed portion of the runway when he was instructed to make a 180 degree turn at the designated point, despite all the markers and NOTAMS that went out. But in this case it is hard to tell until a proper Accident Investigation and Report is completed. In my experience I'll never allow two aircraft to land at the same time, no matter how small the craft is or how long or wide a runway is. In this case I'll say that was a bad call.
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Post by :FI:WillieOFS » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:39 pm

Huh?
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Was that Sargent O'Rourke from

Post by :FI:Fenian » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:12 pm

F-Troop?

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Re: Was that Sargent O'Rourke from

Post by :FI:IceFrog » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:30 pm

:FI:Fenian wrote:F-Troop?

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Post by AltarBoy » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:31 pm

Ok, you guys lost me or Willie sat on that cactus again. :lol:
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Post by :FI:WillieOFS » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:45 pm

:FI:AltarBoy wrote:Ok, you guys lost me or Willie sat on that cactus again. :lol:
Don't know 'bout you boys, around here we make Tequila out of cactus.

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