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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:31 am
by Yeomanforgottologin
Ok spits , will post the link soon , but i'm working on some code and scripting and if i'm not careful i could blow something up .lol :lol:

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:36 am
by :FI:Dex
storm in a tea cup if ye ask me ;)

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:57 am
by Sapper-FIN
Ah seriously, those UN guys deserve a lot of praise
Sure, they do a great job, with resources they have... But i think that during last decade the UN has shown to be incapable of doing what they´re supposed to do... And that´s not the peacekeepers fault... Maybe UN should check their rules of engagement?

They are effective, if the war is between two nations, who has somekind of respect for the laws and the immunity of UN. But civil wars, like it was in the balkans and most of the conflicts in africa... That´s another story... Why should the combatants be afraid of the UN, because it cant do anything about those war crimes?

My friend who served as a peacekeeper in Eritrea, said that sometimes armed mobs were firing at their jeeps, just for the fun of it :?

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:04 pm
by :FI:Dex
Aye they don't like to get their hands dirty..Intervention if it suits NOT for ideological reasons..Bad management of a great concept..sadly..

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:38 pm
by :FI:Mefisto
hmmmmm...

you know what guys? lets work out better system! anyone?

You don't like UN-style, probably you don't like Bush-style with its strict military conflict eather, than what the duck you want?

they are allowed to fight back if i am right. also they should protect civilians, but they are also human and not always make good decisions, or are ready to sacrifice themselves just to attack better equipped and outnumbered forces (which would probably cause raids on civilians and other UN troops)

yes, they shoot at UN observers, my father's friend died on such misson

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:37 pm
by Sapper-FIN
You don't like UN-style, probably you don't like Bush-style with its strict military conflict eather, than what the duck you want?
Well KFOR troops, for example have been doing alright because they work under NATO mandate, not UN.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:03 pm
by :FI:Mefisto
that is still not that clear, both organizations did well and poorly, depends on which side, when, where and with which measure one evaluates their action e.g. case of Srebrenica

KFOR was there under mandate from UN as far as i remember

UN and NATO - they have different goals,
UN is not strict military organization etc. there are actions to reform it, beacuse whole world is changing and solutions from lets say 50-s seem not
to work at all,
what was be unimaginable some time ago in "civilized times" now becomes reality e.g. extremists - it requires also different approach

ppl didn't learn their lesson of WW2 or any other conflict

we are not getting to any point i think, and maybe post about game forum is not the place for such discussions, I suggest some pipe of peace, or at least :beer:

they don't like to get their hands dirty
i still think that such statments is a bit odd... such parrot-talk of "bullpages" for me is abuse and disrespect for blue-helmets and their successes, also for KIAs that died on such missions

I suppose their goal is also to keep everyone hands clean, not only theirs

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:08 pm
by :FI:WillieOFS
Can't secure the peace until you take that bag off the piece. (Unless she REALLY ugly, then you should use the flag and do it for the mother country) :oops: :badgrin:

Willie, hasn't had 'is meds yet........ :lol:

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:22 pm
by :FI:Falcon
Great discussion lads.

Just remember the politics and religion warning on these forums.

Fenian has wisely suggested that such potentially touchy topics stay light.

If things get a bit crusty,

Snoop has a great forum where one can bytch to his heart's content.


Thanks,


Fal "Dog is a democrat" con


... and Willie? take yer meds!

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:47 pm
by Sapper-FIN
Fenian has wisely suggested that such potentially touchy topics stay light.
That´s a good suggestion...

Thread locked

;)

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 5:08 pm
by :FI:Mefisto
Yes Sir!^:|

and who was talking about politics and religion? O:) we will make her/him s-toned :)

still we have to have respect for ferrets, soldiers (even virtual ones) and guerrilas of all nations, and so it goes with fellow debaters - if anyone got offended by me - sorry

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 5:14 pm
by Stovies_
Hey Sapper

take that bag of the dudes head!! he might suffocate ;)

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:03 pm
by :FI:WillieOFS
:?

Life is MORE fun w/o meds.

DOG is a democrat? :lol:

Takin my meds <sigh> Willie

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:10 pm
by Yeoman
:FI:Spitsfire wrote:
Spits'peace maker'fire
PS Yeo can you post the link again so we can have a look at your site please? Now We're sure your not an evil squad recruiting adbot ;)
k , i'm finished destroying it now , so you can take a peak

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:24 pm
by :FI:Spitsfire
Cheers matey!
:)