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Hi All,
My son, my friend and me were in trip recently. We went to the Caucasus mountains and climbed to Induk mountain. During Word War here was intensive fight between Soviet and German forces (Attik operation). I was there first time and was very suprised - how could two armies had large fight here with front line (with use mortairs, heavy machinegun like DSHK, artilery etc). When we lost a trailway it was very dificult to walk/ climb.... Germans could not use tanks and there were something like balance a long time.


Could you image that here someone carried a DSHK, ammo, mortair...


Here was a front line. Russians were on the one slope, germans on the other.


Germans wanted to install a heavy artillery on this mountain (!) but Russians prevented it.


You can find here something from that time until now. My son found 80mm mortair's shell fragments

Nice landscape anyhow. Strange that even war comes to these places.

Thanks for sharing, Alex.

Did you find more war related items like the shell fragments?

Cool Alex.

Thanks for the pics, man.

Its hard to imagine why folk would fight over such Terrain. You've been there Alex, apart from the "motherland" stuff, is it of stragetical significance?



Vin

Beautiful mountains, Alex!
Thanks for sharing!

Nice pics Alex, beautiful countryside.

:FI:Airway wrote:Nice landscape anyhow. Strange that even war comes to these places.
Did you find more war related items like the shell fragments?

Yes but not this time. When I was a child I with my friends collected even changed by "war things". We were finding its everywhere. For example, once I have dug up a soviet military short shovel in our garden. My father and I cleaned it from corrosion - my father use it until now! I had a lot of different bullets, shells, grenade... One my friend had a pistol and rifle but they were in very poor condition. My grandfather used german's bayonet-knife it was made very accurate (he only made a new handle).

Look at these machine guns from aircraft which has local museum.

:FI:Ardmore wrote:Its hard to imagine why folk would fight over such Terrain. You've been there Alex, apart from the "motherland" stuff, is it of stragetical significance?
Vin

German forces wanted to recieve access to the oil. It was the Attika operation I mentioned about it earlier: 1 and 2.

About using a weapon in the mountains I know by myself... look at picture below it's me about 10 years ago in Siberian's mountains (Republic of Sakha) with famous Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine. Note - It is with bayonet . I worked in a geological party as doctor. We had to carried a weapon because there were bears. You can ask me why I choose a that long old style rifle with bayonet and machine gun would be better I already asked that question "Hi guys, may be we give me a pistol..." but I received the answer "what we have that give you". After couple hours in trip in mountains you starting hite the rifle - it not very light, you can't leave it, you must keep it in good condition, when you climbing you can't thow it up, sometimes it became across obstacles and really prevent the moving.

Very cool photos, Alex. Beautiful country - both Caucasus and Siberia. Thanks for sharing those, and the stories, with us.

Alex,

Great pictures. I have a Mosin-Nagant M44, similar to the M38, but with a folding bayonet; it is heavy; I would hate to have to drag it up mountains...but then again I'm sure I'd hate being eaten by a bear.

Igor

:FI:Igor wrote:I have a Mosin-Nagant M44, similar to the M38, but with a folding bayonet; it is heavy; I would hate to have to drag it up mountains...

WOW! It was given me and taken back with stricly documents, instructions, warnings, signs etc.... But you just have it in your home! Is your rifle it is realy military weapon?
Yes that weapon is uncofortable and heavy I hunted with 5.45 Saiga - it's clear AK74 but it hasn't automatic regime (only semi) and made from poor quality steal - so it is more comfortable but always not sure is it ready for fire.... so it more dangerous, once I walked all day with cartridge (bullet or shell) in the beech and found it only at evening when checked the Saiga

Can you fire with your M44 in shooting gallery for example? Do you have other weapon (collection)?

Alex,

In my little collection I have one Mosin-Nagant M44, one Mosin-Nagant M91/30, two AK-47's (Romanian semi auto), one Nagant revolver, and a Polish Makarov. Yes, I'm partial to Russian firearms. We live out in the country, so I fire them at my own little fifty meter range.
Do you think you could take down a bear with a 5.45? I'd prefer a good set of running shoes. No, I can't out run a bear....I'd just have to out run the other guy with me that the bear was chasing...old joke.

Igor