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Code Breakers

Post by :FI:Gurberly » Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:21 pm

One for the scrap book

This Easter holidays 'er indoors and I went to Bletchley Park, home of the cipher and code breakers of WWII.

Fascinating place with a lot of stories to tell. The place reeked of history populated by eccentric British "Boffins". Some of the guys working there as curators now actually worked there in the '50's and '60s when the place was still a central military establishment.

Have to say, the reverse logic, techniques involved plus some of the maths employed went right over my head.

Loads more to see than depicted on these photos, but for those that are interested.....

lots of enigmas (and variations to excuse the pun)

early luftwaffe
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a four wheel army variant. This is the one that got stolen a few years back and was held to ransom
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wiring the cog to the thingy.. this is where it started to get complicated :doubt:
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a set of encoding wheels
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read the insert (a lot of the rotors thingies are actually the same as found in old fashioned telephone exchanges)
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Colossus - rebuilding a replica of the original.
Ther are no full plans of the machine, Apparently the replica is based on 4 photograpghs of the original and 2 pages of engineering notes that should have been destroyed
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The message to be decrypted is first loaded onto a paper tape (each row of punch holes corresponds to a single letter
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and the tape stream is fed as an endless loop into colossus. The machine has no memory, so the data is continuouslly reloaded... this is 1943/44 remember
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the paper strip runs at approx 30 mph
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but he still has a lap top to check e-mail
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This is a bombe, not a computer, but a mechanical machine that was used to help deduce the initial sequencing code that was used to encode enigma ciphers. The code was changed daily from one of several thousand million possible combinations. This machine did not crack it, but produceded possible combinations that it could be

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the wiring at the back....
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Will have to go back again to just start to understand how it works.

It really does boggle the mind to understand how they reverse engineered it.

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Post by :FI:Genosse » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:49 am

Nice piccies, G! And I´m sure that those guys are still able to tell some real interesting stories about crypting, decrypting, bloolean and logical expressions, on and off, wainscotting and even more than that ... :lol: ;)

Anyway, thank you, G! :D

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Post by :FI:Falcon » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:19 am

uqktz iuktq zhoez xktld qgziq falqs gzyqs egf00

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Re: Code Breakers

Post by :FI:Wardog » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:16 am

Yep I had that too stu but a quick trip to the doc's sorted it. That and some big blue fuzzy pills :lol: :lol:

Great pics and some nice background to them Gurbs. I might just have to pop down there sometime and have a look see. :)

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Re: Code Breakers

Post by Nightcat » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:25 pm

Re: Code Breakers
by :FI:Falcon on Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:19 am

uqktz iuktq zhoez xktld qgziq falqs gzyqs egf00
I can't believe I spent 10 minutes of my life trying to break that code >_<
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Post by :FI:Falcon » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:28 pm

:FI:Nightcat wrote:... I can't believe I spent 10 minutes of my life trying to break that code >_<
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Use the keyboard configuration ...

'a' is 'Q', 'b' is 'w', 'c' is 'E', etc.

group in sets of five,

'0's' are null.

~~~

I don't see why codes are necessary. Trying to understand the Sunday 'Political' section of the paper is hard enough. With 'spins' and half truths and exact definitions and outright lies, the truth is pretty well safe from being discovered.


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Re: Code Breakers

Post by :FI:Igor » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:17 am

Gurb,

Interesting posting. I'll show it to my son, he was cyrpto maintenance in the USMC and now does almost the same thing in the Air Guard.

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Re: Code Breakers

Post by Nightcat » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:17 pm

uqktz iuktq zhoez xktld qgziq falqs gzyqs egf00

xjazm .....

Ok I only wasted another 2 minutes of my life this time lol
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Post by :FI:Sneaky_Russian » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:27 pm

:FI:Nightcat wrote:uqktz iuktq zhoez xktld qgziq falqs gzyqs egf00

xjazm .....

Ok I only wasted another 2 minutes of my life this time lol
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Re: Code Breakers

Post by :FI:Genosse » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:05 pm

1 |<4NN07 |_|n|)3.-7574n|) 4 \|/0.-|) _|00 \|/.-073 |-|3.-3 ... 90|) |)4|\/|N 17!
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Post by :FI:Sneaky_Russian » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:20 pm

:FI:Genosse wrote:1 |<4NN07 |_|n|)3.-7574n|) 4 \|/0.-|) _|00 \|/.-073 |-|3.-3 ... 90|) |)4|\/|N 17!
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Post by :FI:Falcon » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:39 pm

:FI:Genosse wrote:1 |<4NN07 |_|n|)3.-7574n|) 4 \|/0.-|) _|00 \|/.-073 |-|3.-3 ... 90|) |)4|\/|N 17!

1 |<4NN07 |_|n|)3.-7574n|) 4 \|/0.-|) _|00 \|/.-073 |-|3.-3 ... 90|) |)4|\/|N 17!

I cannot understand a word joo wrote here ... dog gonnit!

or something ...

hmmm, they must be planning to attack at dawn!


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Post by :FI:Genosse » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:06 am

NMQBEZKVLGDCHPHEXEIGQEAOORMQHDORJBMIFHZNWDCFDFDEXCWHGWOCDJWSQWWBCJQMBHNQSPWJLHFVUBPNTWKXXIAVHCYZQEV

Decrypt with http://www.enigmaco.de/enigma/enigma.swf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

8U7 73H Kr4u72 K4n 4L50 7h12 c0d3 70 m4K3 j00 M4D

Decrypt with http://www.jayssite.com/stuff/l33t/l33t_translator.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Code Breakers

Post by Nightcat » Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:55 pm

The lesser half speaks in code all the time, try cracking the womens secret language heh

"Take garbage out?"

"I see the dishes aren't done after I cooked the sunday roast!"

"Can you change the baby?"
(I think that means swap it for one that doesn't leak!)

"When are you going to...?"

"Isn't it about time you...?"

"Those shelves arn't straight!"

"Could you pick my mother up after work?"

I just don't get any of it, why can't she tell me in simple English!

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Post by :FI:Sneaky_Russian » Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:30 pm

1945 - Tetris discovered

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