Hornets over Hanover!

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Hornets over Hanover!

Post by :FI:Falcon » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:41 am

YEARS ago, when I was young, I did a 210.

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This is another first attempt at skinning. I've just started updating it today after trying out the new sound mod. Ignore the skin. It's a test of the new digital camo in use on uniforms. The template, as you would expect, is a mess. I'll work on that when I'm not RO'g, Elf'g and helping my dear wife pick out drap ... erm ... telling the womenfolk when to fix my supper.

Thanks Gadje and all for stearing me toward this novel mod.


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- The history of Paul Revere's midnight ride, by Sarah Palin.
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Post by :FI:Falcon » Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:06 pm

still uber WIP ...

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just color and pattern study, lines, rivets next.


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- The history of Paul Revere's midnight ride, by Sarah Palin.
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Sweet!

Post by :FI:Genosse » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:50 pm

I´m going to follow your progresses ... count me in for a skin, Stu! ;)

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Post by :FI:Falcon » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:56 am

Great, another Hornet fan!

I haven't flown it yet, but I always thought it looked so cool.

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Changed the camo pattern, started correcting beaucoup screwy lines, etc.

So yeah, it's gonna have a LW splinter pattern with RAF gray-green (Iregreen) and RAF dark earth paint.

Go figure.


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- The history of Paul Revere's midnight ride, by Sarah Palin.
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Lookin' GOOOOOD, Stu!

Post by :FI:Heloego » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:59 am

Countmeinferaskinifyakin?

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Post by :FI:Nellip » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:37 pm

Looks great, would love one with a 42 when you have finished it maestro.

Must try and fly the 210 one night - wonder if I could write a few missions including the planes that are now flyable in the sound mod?
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Post by AltarBoy » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:45 pm

Looks good but a little critique please. Since skinning back in the days of Il2 I was advised by the pros there to tone down the rivets and panel lines. They apparently don't show themselves up so prominently. But I guess that's up to personal choice.
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Post by :FI:Falcon » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:53 pm

Yeah, I know, I know!

Just getting the colors and patterns now. Rivets will be later. Standard voids are full of giant rivets and early (and in some cases later) in my skinnin' career I was guilty of that too. Today I will work more on the irregular mapped shades on adjacent/split panels and some line work, hatch weights and new details ...

but don't let all that slow anyone down on the critiques. All input is appreciated!


thx uberly


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- The history of Paul Revere's midnight ride, by Sarah Palin.
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RE: Giant Rivets

Post by :FI:Sneaky_Russian » Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:10 pm

Know what you mean there. I kinda hit the wall with the B17 template 'cos it's such a big plane for a 1024 sq px skin a 1 pixel rivet is huge.




So do you have a no 23 in that colour? please.
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Rivet visibility would...

Post by :FI:Heloego » Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:33 pm

...of course depend on the type of rivet used in a particular aircraft construction.

Flush (countersunk) rivets would barely show...if at all.

Round-head (button) rivets would stand out like a sore thumb.

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Post by :FI:Blue2 » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:57 am

Lookin' very nice there, Stu. I'd love 1 each no. 41 when she's all ready for prime time!

Now if I can just figure out where you guys have downloaded this crazy new mod from... and eventually get it set up with the version switcher. Saw that thread someplace at one point but couldn't find it when I went lookin the other day. Sounds worthy of a sticky, or even a hosted download thru the FI site, maybe.

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Post by :FI:Nellip » Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:42 pm

There is a sticky at the top of the squadron forum for the sound mod, with a link to where you can find it.

Flying some of the previously unflyable planes - even if the cockpit is not authentic - was great fun in Sundays session last week.
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Post by :FI:Falcon » Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:11 am

Flippin' detail time ...

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plus still working on fixing many remaining matting issues

and hatches

and wear

and r-r-rivets

and 3d stuff

and that history vs. what is possible thing.

...

Ghost, you still wanna start skinnin'?

Think twice mate ...


>shudder<

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- The history of Paul Revere's midnight ride, by Sarah Palin.
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Post by :FI:Falcon » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:21 am

Slow but steady ...

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lots of detail around the cockpit to do,

some wear adjustment,

many more details,

dirty up the underside,

adjust or totally give up putting Eire flag on prop,

aileron details to do,

more hatch rivets, etc (still at 100% opacity),

etc, etc, etc ...

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This is the 210Ca-1. The Zerstorer will need some small changes in the nose prolly.


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- The history of Paul Revere's midnight ride, by Sarah Palin.
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Post by :FI:Falcon » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:39 pm

All done for now ...

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... and for those who want a historic~ish scheme,

I'm doing a quicky night attack design. (inset)


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PS: all metal may also be available if it looks okay after I strip off all the paint
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- The history of Paul Revere's midnight ride, by Sarah Palin.
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